Those may be the earliest manuscripts we have jgnat, but the some of the ante nicene fathers were much closer to the events, and they verify much in the gospels. Some of them were even disciples of th apostles. These men's writings were so thorough that we could a actually piece together the gospels based on their writings alone.
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Why did the Early Church Accept the Four NT Gospels and Reject the Gnostic Gospels?
by Christ Alone inthis has been a subject that has been explored by many secular scholars today.
bart ehrman is one of them.
the divinci code had this to say about why the gospels were chosen:.
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Why did the Early Church Accept the Four NT Gospels and Reject the Gnostic Gospels?
by Christ Alone inthis has been a subject that has been explored by many secular scholars today.
bart ehrman is one of them.
the divinci code had this to say about why the gospels were chosen:.
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If the 4 gospels were exactly the same people would accuse them of getting together to conspire to make them the same. But the gospels were written with different audiences in mind.
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Why did the Early Church Accept the Four NT Gospels and Reject the Gnostic Gospels?
by Christ Alone inthis has been a subject that has been explored by many secular scholars today.
bart ehrman is one of them.
the divinci code had this to say about why the gospels were chosen:.
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Men VERY close to the events claimed these gospels were written by the apostles as well as Luke and mark. But that proof is not good enough for some. No proof would be enough, it seems, to those that don't want to believe it. The same tactic could be made of almost any historical figure. "Yeah, they said it, but I find it unlikely." Yet most of this ridiculous skepticism is directed at the bible and it's authors.
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Why did the Early Church Accept the Four NT Gospels and Reject the Gnostic Gospels?
by Christ Alone inthis has been a subject that has been explored by many secular scholars today.
bart ehrman is one of them.
the divinci code had this to say about why the gospels were chosen:.
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They are the earliest Christian writings that we have, closest to the apostles. There are several books I could recommend about the ante nicene fathers and the early church.
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My Dream About 2012
by metatron ini recently had a dream that crystallized my thoughts about 2012, going into 2013.. for quite awhile now, i have been reading various predictions and websites that claim special knowledge of what will happen on dec. 21 and thereafter.
most of them are 'sweet talk' about wondrous fantasies and nothing more.
in the dream, there was a school with a huge field behind it.
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Maybe Planet X was delayed. Or it's hitting the earth will be invisible?
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Why did the Early Church Accept the Four NT Gospels and Reject the Gnostic Gospels?
by Christ Alone inthis has been a subject that has been explored by many secular scholars today.
bart ehrman is one of them.
the divinci code had this to say about why the gospels were chosen:.
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But they DO speak of the 4 gospels that we accept today. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. They also speak against many of the teachings that are found in the gnostic gospels, as taught by the gnostics at that time. Many of these Gnostic Gospels had probably not even been written yet. So the idea that there were many gospels that the church recognized, is false. It was clear that they only recognized the authority of the apostles, who were eyewitnesses.
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Why did the Early Church Accept the Four NT Gospels and Reject the Gnostic Gospels?
by Christ Alone inthis has been a subject that has been explored by many secular scholars today.
bart ehrman is one of them.
the divinci code had this to say about why the gospels were chosen:.
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No problem. At least it isn't as long as most of templeijah's posts...
In a nutshell I said that the early church writers only speak of the 4 gospels, not the gnostic gospels. Yet, they are arguing against much of what the gnostic gospels declare. The fact is that the 4 gospels came first, and the early church recognized that only the apostles and close associates of the apostles wrote scripture.
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Why did the Early Church Accept the Four NT Gospels and Reject the Gnostic Gospels?
by Christ Alone inthis has been a subject that has been explored by many secular scholars today.
bart ehrman is one of them.
the divinci code had this to say about why the gospels were chosen:.
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If you read the post, james, you'd see what I was referring to. The early church fathers of the 1st and 2nd century. Some were direct disciples of the apostles. I specifically referred to Clement, Ignatius, Polycarp, Irenaeus, Tertullian, and Ignatius. All from before the end of the 2nd century.
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Stronger Christian presence on JWN?
by Christ Alone ini've only been a member here for a short time, but it seems like there are more christians on the board lately.
for the first few months that i was on jwn, it appeared that there were very few that argued in favor of a creator and belief in the bible in particular.
there seems to be several more that have recently joined...or at least posted more regularly regarding belief.
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...and I want to echo caliber, wannabefree. Your honesty is refreshing.
I bet some atheists here would feel differently if everyone who claimed to be a Christian really acted like one.
I totally agree, Data Dog. I posted an article on another thread that is a very interesting read. The article begins with the project of Thomas Jefferson to cut out all parts of the gospel that he didn't agree with. Basically he ended up with nothing about the divinity of Christ, or really any doctrine. What he ended up with was how to live as a Christian. It lead to his realization that Christians are not living the way Christ lived.
Here's the article from newsweek. It's 4 pages, but it's a fascinating read:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/04/01/andrew-sullivan-christianity-in-crisis.html
I'd like to hear what you think.
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Why did the Early Church Accept the Four NT Gospels and Reject the Gnostic Gospels?
by Christ Alone inthis has been a subject that has been explored by many secular scholars today.
bart ehrman is one of them.
the divinci code had this to say about why the gospels were chosen:.
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Interesting, Chariklo. I'd like to read more about that.
I was also thinking about the claims that the apostle Paul was not the writer of the letters that are credited to him, or that there were many "Pauls". This idea just doesn't seem to be present in the writings of the anti-Nicean fathers either. Clement and Irenaeus both spoke about the apostles Peter and Paul in their writings in the early 2nd century. There just doesn't seem to be the needed amount of time to fabricate the gospels, fabricate the epistles, and have everyone believe them to be written by eyewitnesses.